UbuntuSolutions : Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Edward

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:44:02 -0700

Great tutorial ,thanks! I'v submitted a link of this article to www.linuxine.com in order to share it with more people.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by jjcanaday@gmail.com

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:34:36 -0700

At the point where there are 2 versions, and you show how to make 3.5 the default: I get "sudo su", but what is "ll firefox*"? I get an error message: "bash: ll: command not found". I even copied and pasted from here. What is that command supposed to do?

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by bikethetam

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:51:40 -0700

jjcanaday, sorry that's a typo. I'm fixing it.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by moses

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:24:07 -0700

I believe ll is an alias to ls -l, so if you change ll firefox* to ls -l firefox* it should give you what you want.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by mangahaus@hotmail.com

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:30:19 -0700

@jjcanaday@gmail.com

Regarding: ll After a couple of minutes of googling that "ll" command, I came across a site that informed me that Ubuntu doesn't come with that alias as default. In order for it to work, you will need to replace that in the command with "ls -l" (no quotes). After that, no problems getting it to work. Thanks a bunch, biketheteam!

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by kiterunner

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:41:38 -0700

Hey that is cool. I am recommending this method using ubuntuzilla too. It is rather simple and straight forward. http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/193/installing-firefox-3-5-in-ubuntu-the-easy-way

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by bikethetam

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:17:02 -0700

yes, ll is an alias for 'ls -lsa'. The typo was about the missing 'cd /usr/bin' line.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Morten

Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:12:07 -0700

Wrt. the use of sudo su - sudo has a -s* option for getting a shell, which makes *sudo -s. This will, if memory serves me correct, log all commands to the syslog for later inspection.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Kogi Kaishakunin

Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:18:02 -0700

I think "apt-get install firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-gnome-support latex-xft-fonts" requires to be run as root.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by RamL

Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:42:02 -0700

Can firefox-3.0 be uninstalled at this point? I would appreciate if you could provide more details.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by SilverWave

Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:44:58 -0700

It you set your sources in Ubuntu to allow Proposed Updates then FF3.5 is available :)

Was: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1b4pre) Gecko/20090401 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Shiretoko/3.5b4pre - Build ID:20090401172919

Now: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090701 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Shiretoko/3.5 - Build ID: 20090701021524

Remember to then turn proposed off :)

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by curious

Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:14:00 -0700

Great howto! Thanks. One question: when firefox 3.5 makes it into the ubuntu-repos and replaces 3.0, do I have to mess around with the symlinks again? Or do they get corrected on update so firefox points to Ubuntu's updated firefox package?

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Grant Bowman

Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:43:58 -0700

The jaunty-proposed solution is much easier for end users!

Grant Bowman

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by incubii

Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:35:44 -0700

@Curious Firefox 3.5 will not be updated for any previous version of Ubuntu. It will only be available for Karmic Koala and beyond. Very annoying considering the beta is in the repo already!

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by curious

Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:16:19 -0700

Ahh, I see, thanks for clarification. Coming from Rolling-Release Arch LInux I supposed it will get superseded once the new version is out... Annoying, but keeping the PPA repo should do the trick.

Slightly OT, there is a bug making firefox crash on fullscreen Flash with some graphic cards (https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/333127). The bug report mentions this workaround, worked for me:

In the case of Firefox 3. package from PPA, the file /usr/lib/firefox-3.5pre/firefox.sh should be modified adding: export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by wonderwhy

Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:19:03 -0700

missing flash plug in after using this method.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by curious

Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:57:53 -0700

report it to the bug-tracker.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by curious

Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:37:54 -0700

sorry, wonderwhy - got you wrong. I reckon you meant missing flash after installing firefox 3.5 from PPA?

Things you could check: Do you still have flash in 3.0? Did it get removed when installing 3.5 / Does reinstalling it makes a difference? Locate the flashplugin*.so, on my system it looks like this:

/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so -> /etc/alternatives/firefox-flashplugin

If you run x64, it may have to do something with it, you could toss around with the symlinks.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by wonderwhy

Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:22:23 -0700

flash was working fine in video, usatoday with FF 3.0.11 after upgrade to FF 3.5.1pre, video still work but usatoday website prompt flash plugs-in installation. system running ubuntu 9.04 32 bits not x64.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by curious

Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:28:49 -0700

So if flash is working on other websites, it seems unlikely you are missing the plugin... rather like a problem with the usatoday website, right? I get the same message on usatoday.com. As long as the videos play anyway, just ignore the message.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by wonderwhy

Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:16:47 -0700

ok CURIOUS...youtube and other video website works fine. will ignore usatoday flash plugs-in prompt.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by docspike

Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:58:59 -0700

I followed the steps given in section 'Installing from Mozilla.org'

The installation took place without any problem, but after starting the browser its not connecting to internet...giving the error message failed to connect to server..my internet connection is fine as other browsers work fine...i m using Ubuntu 9.04 x86_64bit....Kindly help as i am fed up with trying to install..i tried using ubuntuzilla too...it dint work either...

Somebody help!!

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by curious

Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:26:40 -0700

docspike, please install from a repo. Circumventing the package manager can mess up your system, and introduce additional problems. Since firefox 3.5 is now in universe, this is also the most painless method.

But before anything else, revert everything you have done till now to install 3.5, so you have a clean start and wont end up with different version oft the same software borking up your system.

After that, it is as simple as running:

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-gnome-support

@bikethetam: maybe you should add a note to your post about firefox3.5 being in universe now, to avoid confusion.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Progfou

Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:37:46 -0700

A few comments on “The Right Way”™ :

Firefox 3.5 final is now available in Jaunty through normal security updates => sometime the right way is just to wait a bit ;-)
I wouldn't advise a non-technical end-user to use a -daily repository => it's unstable by definition, and it may put the user on a frequent large download (and may be a large bill in the end too) ;
better use aptitude instead of apt-get => apt-get only manage packages without "remembering" automatic installation dependencies, the one feature that allow you to cleanly un-install by removing every related packages (if they are not required by something staying) ;
better use sudo -i instead of sudo su => one less process in memory ;
better use dpkg-divert instead of manually managing files belonging to packages => dpkg-divert allow to ensure your modifications will be kept over package updates.

BTW, thanks for the hint about installing latex-xft-fonts to help MathML support in Mozilla products! :-)

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by wonderwhy

Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:48:46 -0700

i followed the revert step to remove shiretoko 3.5.1pre web browser then install firefox-3.5. now i have firefox 3.0.12 and shiretoko 3.5 both on my system. also had deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main in /etc/apt/sources.list. would like to have only firefox 3.5 option in the system which can be upgrade with a newer version when mozilla is ready. also, no flash plugins notice in firefox 3.0.12 version in usatoday website..go figure huh? TIA

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by wonderwhy

Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:49:35 -0700

thank to Progfou for the APTITUDE command usage..was not savy to that earlier. :-)

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by fowlplay

Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:05:07 -0700

Progfou: I've done apt-get update, but the package for firefox-3.5 still shows as 3.5-b4. Could you tell me how to change my package to 3.5 final?

TIA

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by wonderwhy

Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:41:41 -0700

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090701 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Shiretoko/3.5

is this the firefox 3.5 final version?

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Progfou

Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:43:31 -0700

@fowlplay: using apt-get update will only update your “available packages” lists, after that you have to use apt-get safe-upgrade to ask the APT package manager to look for new versions now available and then download and install them. In some cases, for example when a new package version requires adding or removing packages, you'll have to use apt-get dist-upgrade instead, but you should not use this in most common cases, so avoid it unless you have to use it.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Progfou

Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:45:59 -0700

@wonderwhy: it says 3.5, not 3.5svn neither 3.5beta not 3.5rc, so I would say “yes” that's the official one. :-)

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Progfou

Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:49:25 -0700

About Flash support, the current official way is to use the adobe-flashplugin package available at Canonical's APT repository using this APT source:

deb http://archive.canonical.com/ jaunty partner

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Joe&Bug

Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:26:59 -0700

What about the apturl? Since the installation of the Shiretoko thing, the apt protocol is no more. How should I get back the apt:// commodity?

All in all, I really think this is a night mare to the Ubuntu community. The rendering is slower than Window$,

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by MSP

Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:16:09 -0700

OK. I used the command at the top this page. The package manager has a green square next to firefox-3.5 but when I click the firefox icon at the top of the screen, the Help.About menu still says it is 3.0.11. It is also 3.0.11 if I open it from the applications menu.

What am I doing wrong?

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by MSP

Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:20:23 -0700

One more thing. Why is the "Check for updates" menu disabled in 3.0.11 as this stops me from upgrading the simple, obvious way I would in windows?

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by curious

Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:15:33 -0700

@MSP

The Package Manager takes care of all software updates, and does so exclusively to keep things clean. Also, because Firefox is running as your user, it does not have permissions to write outside your home directory, where the binaries are installed. So it is half security issue, half convenience of centralised package management (there is no "update all installed software" button in windows).

Firefox 3.5/Shiretoko gets installed parallel to the existing version. Start it like that from a terminal:

/usr/bin/firefox-3.5

If you want to make Shireteko default, recreate the symlink /usr/bin/firefox pointing to /usr/bin/firefox-3.5. This is described near the end of the post ("At this point, there are 2 different versions of Firefox coexisting..."ff).

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by MSP

Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:04:14 -0700

@Curious. Thanks for your reply, but you seem to have misunderstood my questions. I want to upgrade an Ubuntu 9.04 system from its default Firefox 3.0.11 to Firefox 3.5. I don't want to use anything called "Shireteko" (unless that is an obscure way of referring to Firefox 3.5). Also I don't think I ever accused windows of having an "update all installed software" button. Isn't that the same thing as reinstalling the OS? Excuse my ignorance, I've only been using computers since 1967:-).

I'm getting my Mum, who's getting on a bit, to use Ubuntu because I've been impressed by its GUI and feel she will have less trouble with a system which is less prone to security problems than her old windows xp. So I'm really looking for a "non-terminal" solution to this problem so that I can teach her how to do it in case I am not around next time it needs doing. I gave up using command line interfaces in the 1980s (PERQs then Macs) unless I'm forced to.

To be clear, I'm looking for an equivalent to what happens when you upgrade Firefox under windows, i.e. You are either prompted that a new version is available and click a button to indicate that you wish to install it, or you click “Tools/Check For Updates” and then indicate that you wish to install it if one is available. In either case, the end result is that the new version replaces the old version and automatically becomes your default browser, assuming the old version was your default browser. I definitely do not want the old and the new version to "coexist". For preference, I would prefer not to have to explain to my Mum what a "symlink" is (always assuming I knew myself), or to explain to her about permissions.

After all, don't Ubuntu's goals "include providing an up-to-date, stable operating system for the average user, with a strong focus on usability and ease-of-installation". Terminal commands have no place in that and, in my opinion, detract from what seems to be a great OS. However, it does lack an animated bumble bee buzzing around the screen when it's compiling like it used to under POS on the PERQ:-).

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by MSP

Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:04:51 -0700

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by curious

Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:03:31 -0700

@MSP

I feel like I indeed understood your question... You asked why update is disabled inside Firefox, and I provided you with an explanation. Than I pointed you to the passage in the very article you are commenting on, where it is explained how to make firefox 3.5 the default browser. How am I supposed to know you were looking for a way which avoids the command line?

Also I don't think I ever accused windows of having an "update all installed software" button.

Neither was I implying you did. I meant it as an example why package management (apt, synaptics) is "convenient" (as in "you can't update from inside firefox, but on the other side you can update the whole system with one click"). No offense.

I don't want to use anything called "Shireteko" (unless that is an obscure way of referring to Firefox 3.5)

Shireteko, with a blue icon, is what you will get at the moment if you install from universe. This is unbranded Firefox 3.5 final. I did not chose this name, Firefox developers did.

To be clear, I'm looking for an equivalent to what happens when you upgrade Firefox under windows, i.e. You are either prompted that a new version is available and click a button to indicate that you wish to install it, or you click “Tools/Check For Updates” and then indicate that you wish to install it if one is available. In either case, the end result is that the new version replaces the old version and automatically becomes your default browser, assuming the old version was your default browser. I definitely do not want the old and the new version to "coexist".

You have two options:

Wait until the official Firefox 3.0 package gets an update. I currently do not know when this will happen, and if it will happen for the current release at all.
Run Firefox with root privileges once. You should be able to update from inside firefox than. I would not recommend this, as I am not sure if things could break. Officially, firefox is not supposed to run as root.

After all, don't Ubuntu's goals "include providing an up-to-date, stable operating system for the average user, with a strong focus on usability and ease-of-installation". Terminal commands have no place in that and, in my opinion, detract from what seems to be a great OS.

This is your personal opinion. However, I do not see any point in discussing Ubuntu's goals or how they organize stuff here, since I am just a user like you. Complain to them, if you want. I just tried to provide you with an answer to your questions.

Here is an overview about the various options you have to install Firefox 3.5, if you're still interested (under "Installing Other Versions").

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by curious

Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:39:52 -0700

P.S.: As it seems, Firefox 3.5 will only become the default browser with the release of Ubuntu 9.10, scheduled for October 09. You will be able to upgrade through the Update Manager than.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by curious

Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:55:06 -0700

sorry for triple posting (and for confusing than with then all the time - not my mother tongue):

You might want to have a look at Ubuntuzilla. It seems to do what you are looking for, but circumvents the package manager. You will still have two Firefox version coexist (3.0 from Ubuntu, and 3.5 from Mozilla), but they should do so peacefully.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by MSP

Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:20:32 -0700

@Curious. Thank you again for your input.

Basically, you are saying that, in your personal opinion, what I want is not yet possible without changing the way Firefox is normally used.

"This is your personal opinion. However, I do not see any point in discussing Ubuntu's goals or how they organize stuff here, since I am just a user like you. Complain to them, if you want."

Actually, it's not my opinion. The quote is from Wikipedia and is a reasonable summary of the Ubuntu philosophy as stated on its website. Far from complaining, I was simply reminding people who answer questions in terms of terminal commands that this is not in keeping with Ubuntu's stated philosophy and is not as helpful as it could be to ordinary users (like my Mum!).

However, I have now found another forum which seems to be lees "terminally" inclined so I will not need to trouble you here any more.

Thank you again for your time.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by curious

Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:44:36 -0700

no trouble caused. If you find an easier solution, please post back here to let people know.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by MahoganyRapture

Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:11:20 -0700

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0.11/win32/en-GB/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.11.exe

go here and downgrade back to 3.0. you don't need to uninstall 3.5 it will do it by itself, i did and now all is happy in my surfing world.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by ...

Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:04:53 -0700

@MahoganyRapture: I think you missed the point of this ENTIRE THREAD. We're talking about the Linux version, and also upgrading, not downgrading.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Dave

Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:23:59 -0700

I could not get FF 3.5 to work correctly in Ubuntu Jaunty (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1238437), so I ended up trying Swiftweasel and I love it. It is faster and it works. http://sourceforge.net/projects/swiftweasel/files/

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by clint

Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:02:59 -0700

I was wondering how I can install other language versions of 3.5 as the above using mozilla repos

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by benke@brimberg.se

Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:49:45 -0700

Hi,

I'm pretty new to ubuntu and linux. I want to know more about this,

You can add to your system a repository maintained by the mozilla developers. Add the following line at the bottom of /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main

Exactly what do I do, and how am I doing this in the terminal? Or do I do it somewhere else ? Eager to understand. regards, Benke

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by bikethetam

Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:37:27 -0700

You have to use a text editor like gedit (type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"), copy "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main" to the end of the file and save.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Johnny T.

Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:47:11 -0700

Dude this was VERY helpful!

Thanks alot!

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by yadhie

Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:07:13 -0700

thanks... this post really usefull for me who first time to use linux ubuntu... it really works now.. thanks

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by marius

Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:42:57 -0700

why the browser call shiretoko and not firefox?

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Something quite strange happened

Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:52:12 -0700

I followed the instructions given in this post, but at the end of it all, when I start firefox, I get a message box pop-up saying:

ASSERT: * Search: _installLocation: engine has no file! Stack Trace: 0:ENSUREWARN(false,installLocation: engine has no file!,2147500037) 1:() 2:() 3:() 4:epsGetAttr([object Object],hidden) 5:() 6:() 7:currentEngine() 8:get_currentEngine() 9:updateDisplay() 10:init() 11:([object XULElement],11)

I am not an absolute noob in linux, but this is beyond me. Any help will be thoroughly appreciated.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Ritwik Banerjee

Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:12:46 -0700

Ok .... the previous msg titles "something quite strange happened" was by me .... left the subject there instead of my name. sorry 'bout that. anyway, figured out what happened. actually, shiretoko figured out the problem .... the xul related packages needed to be ignored/updated, that's all. thanks for this post ... helped me a lot. :)

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by stlouisubntu

Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:59:49 -0700

Friend,

You were so great in identifying and sharing these PPAs for Firefox-3.5 and I was hoping that you would also be so kind and helpful in regard to the newly released FINAL SeaMonkey-2.0 package for ubuntu (hardy, please.) In my own web searching, I was only able to find ones with SeaMonkey-2.0 Betas from May 2009 or so.

Any help?

Thanks.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by John

Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:38:41 -0800

How do u uninstall it and get the default firefox back

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by tmcn52@gmail.com

Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:53:54 -0800

Thanks for the info. I love Firefox 3.5. Been using it on Windows XP. Now I have it on Ubuntu 9.04.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Exchange

Tue, 28 Sep 2010 01:20:32 -0700

Upon your request, i completely removed firefox build, and tried everything from scratch and it all went just fine. And now i have the latest firefox 3.5.3 in my ubuntu jaunty. May be you should try one more time and make sure if it is not something related to the server error.

Comment on Installing Firefox 3.5 the right way in Ubuntu Jaunty by Events in Pittsburgh

Mon, 07 Feb 2011 02:49:24 -0800